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Esther Perel appeared live at Sessions Live (the event's 10th year) in a conversation with Mary Alice Miller to mark three milestones: 20 years since Mating in Captivity (2006), a decade of Sessions Live, and nearly a decade of the Where Should We Begin? podcast (launched 2017). Miller framed the discussion as part of a broader "relational public health" project; Perel echoed that aim, describing the podcast and public work as deliberate efforts to lower the walls of the therapy room and bring therapeutic insights into the public square. She emphasized audio's intimacy — referencing Melbourne's strict 200-day lockdown and how listeners developed a parasocial trust — as a unique medium that lets people hear themselves in others' stories.
The conversation traced Perel's origins and clinical evolution. Growing up in a post-Holocaust survivor community shaped her fascination with aliveness and eroticism; early mentors (including Salvador Minuchin, Rich Simon, Ruth Cohn and body-work collaborator Jaya) and theater/puppetry work led her to family therapy training at the Cambridge Family Institute. Perel recounted how sex was taboo in 1980s–90s couples therapy: she had only an hour of sexuality training across seven years, which propelled her 2002 article "In Search of Erotic Intelligence" (viral at the time) and later the 2006 book. Clinically she now treats sexuality as a parallel narrative — asking different questions about fantasy, play, surrender, and where people 'go' sexually — and often sees partners individually in confidential sessions.
They revisited cases from the book, notably "Jed and Coral," whose sexual incompatibility led to separation but an amicable co-parenting arrangement Perel calls a "beautiful divorce." A reparative encounter 15 years later — when Jed said his anger had turned to gratitude — illustrated the long tail of therapeutic ruptures and repair. Looking ahead, Perel raised a pressing concern: technology and on-demand predictability are shrinking tolerance for risk, uncertainty, and human imperfection. Her central question for the next two decades is practical and theoretical: how do we cultivate aliveness, desire and erotic creativity in a changing cultural and technological landscape? Mary Alice and Perel agreed that translating clinical insight into public discourse remains urgent as relationship norms shift rapidly.
Session recorded live at Sessions Live (10-year anniversary) and marked Esther Perel's 20th anniversary of Mating in Captivity (book published in 2006); the conversation was led by Mary Alice Miller (head of content, Esther Perel Global Media) on 2026-06-22.
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