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Paris Fire Brigade (serving a metro of 10M) posts average fire response of 12…

Brief

Jason (@jasonc_nc) contrasts emergency response metrics (Paris: 12 min fire, 7 min EMS; Houston 90th‑percentile: 13 min fire, 15 min EMS) with traffic‑safety opportunities: US lane standards (12–14 ft lanes, 26 ft two‑lane minimum) hinder smaller apparatus and calming measures, while narrower European lanes (Stockholm ~9.8 ft) and road diets cut crashes and could save far more lives than further shrinking fire response times.

Why it matters

Paris Fire Brigade (serving a metro of 10M) posts average fire response of 12 minutes and EMS 7 minutes; Houston reports 90th‑percentile times of 13 minutes for fire and 15 minutes for EMS.

Key details

  • Smaller apparatus and alternative vehicles can improve medical response times without sacrificing firefighting capability; local US practice favors large apparatus and wide lanes that hinder such options.
  • Road safety measures matter more: a 10% reduction in road deaths in a typical US city would save more lives than all fire deaths; road diets/traffic calming cut crashes ~20–40% and fatalities/serious injuries ~30–40%, and the author claims deaths per fire have seen zero improvement for ~5 decades and safer streets could save 3–4× that number.
Source evidence

The Paris Fire Brigade (serving a metro of 10M people) has an average fire response of 12 minutes. 7 for EMS.

Houston as a US example uses “90th-percentile*” times, at 13 minutes for fire and 15 for EMS.

Smaller apparatus & alternative vehicles improves medical response times without sacrificing firefighting capability.

Meanwhile if a typical U.S. city reduced road deaths by just 10% they would save more lives than all fire deaths. Road diets, traffic calming and related show reductions in crashes of ~20-40% and in fatalities and serious injuries of ~30-40%.

There has been zero improvement in deaths per fire for ~5 decades, because response after the fact has little impact on outcomes. But we could save 3-4x that number by simply making safer streets that also work better for everyone on them.

Jason, (@jasonc_nc)

Stockholm’s pedestrian fatality rate per 100k is 0.45. The U.S. is over 5x that.

Like much of the EU Stockholm uses standards of 9.8’ for city street lanes, even narrower for residential ones, and allows for 10.8’ in bus and truck corridors. The U.S. sets 26’ as a minimum width for a two lane street and common lane widths on city streets are 12-14’.

Yet when proposals are made to narrrow lane widths along dangerous streets, local fire departments are first in line to stop them.

— https://nitter.net/jasonc_nc/status/2065865797184926064#m