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The conversation moves through technical examples and policy parallels. Wellinghoff recounted a 2008 FERC demo using a University of Delaware EV to provide regulation — illustrating how charging modulation can deliver grid services while still replenishing vehicles — and cited a then‑estimated $100/month earning for such service. He noted his own garage hosts over 200 kW of vehicle/battery capacity that cannot participate today because many regions lack markets or independent operators. Both speakers agreed IDSOs could raise reliability and lower costs by favoring distributed flexibility (VPPs, demand response, EV charging control) over costly distribution upgrades; Wellinghoff pointed to Voltus’ BYOC work and the low (~30%) utilization of U.S. T&D infrastructure as evidence of unrealized value. Policy constraints and gaming risk were emphasized: Wellinghoff likened possible utility manipulation of VPP tariffs to historical PURPA avoided‑cost games and argued an independent entity must set valuations. They debated feasibility: Wellinghoff admitted utilities have little incentive to give up control and said change likely requires state legislative will (or pressure/financing from hyperscalers — he cited ~145 GW of data‑center signups). Texas was identified as a comparatively ready jurisdiction; past IDSO proposals (e.g., Maui, Maine) stalled. The hosts concluded IDSOs present a structural remedy to affordability and interconnection tensions — promising greater consumer choice and cheaper, cleaner grid services if political barriers can be overcome.
Jon Wellinghoff (chief regulatory officer at Voltus; former FERC chair) and James Tong proposed independent distribution system operators (IDSOs) in a 2014 paper to remove the conflict of interest that occurs when utilities both own distribution assets and operate the markets that pay for those assets.
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