Gavin on why the hyperscalers are under-earning:
" I literally spoke to a company this morning who rented a cluster of several thousand Blackwells at somewhere in the mid $2 per GPU hour, and this is one of the sexiest startups that people want to be in business with.
They're renting the exact same cluster, and they're hoping 7 months later to pay just under $4.
That's pretty crazy because a really gentle decline in prices would be bullish. Instead, we're up, depending on the starting point, 50 to 60% in six or seven months.
And there have been so many anecdotes like that. One of the inference clouds, I think it was Baseten, they went on a podcast and essentially said, "We are planning to pay 100% more for Blackwells when our contract expires.
And that just means that essentially all the hyperscalers are under-earning.
My main mission out here this week is: tell me something negative."
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Patrick OShaughnessy (@patrick_oshag)
My seventh conversation with @GavinSBaker.
It's about the gap between what the market is doing and what companies are seeing. It's been a tough month or so for public AI names, but there's no sign of a slowdown on the ground in Silicon Valley.
We discuss:
- Why old GPUs are getting more expensive
- Open source vs the frontier
- Claude as Wall Street's Walter Cronkite
- Whether the buildout gets funded out of cash flow or debt
- SpaceX as a data center company
- And more
Enjoy!
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Intro
1:17 AI Selloff vs. Fundamentals
10:20 Financing the AI Buildout
18:18 GPU Prices Keep Rising
24:23 Claude Moves Markets
29:01 What Could Break the Thesis
36:59 The Memory Supply War
42:08 Nvidia’s New Playbook
50:14 China and Open Source
61:51 Data Centers and Regulation
71:11 SpaceX and Orbital Compute
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— https://nitter.net/patrick_oshag/status/2084610308279288141#m