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Yang Zhilin (Kimi founder) delivers a 99-minute Chinese interview explaining how…

2026-08-04 · 10:43 UTC ·@phosphenq ·1 min read

Brief

Phosphen (@phosphenq) translated a 99-minute Chinese interview with Kimi founder Yang Zhilin (posted 2026-08-04) that explains how a leading open model is built; Phosphen says it overturned his beliefs about open source and pairs the video with a guide, 'How to Graph Engineering,' plus a Claude Code example (105 agents, 5,044,822 tokens, 36 minutes).

Why it matters

Yang Zhilin (Kimi founder) delivers a 99-minute Chinese interview explaining how the world's top open model is actually built; Phosphen translated it into English and posted it on 2026-08-04.

Key details

  • Phosphen watched the interview twice and says it overturned most of his prior beliefs about open source; he directs readers to his guide 'How to Graph Engineering: The Complete Guide' to learn how to build a system that 'runs itself.'
  • Example technical claim: Claude Code spawned 105 agents on a single question, used 5,044,822 tokens, and took 36 minutes to run — a scale most daily Claude Code users reportedly have never executed.
Cleaned source text

kimi founder, yang zhilin:

"because we haven't gotten to a complete lead yet."

in 99 minutes he explains how the top open model in the world actually gets built.

this interview was in chinese and never had an english version, so i made one.

i watched it twice last night, and most of what i believed about open source was wrong.

watch it, then read the guide below on how to build a system that runs itself.

Video

Phosphen (@phosphenq)

Article

How to Graph Engineering: The Complete Guide

Claude Code ships a feature that spawns 105 agents on a single question. I ran it this week. It cost 5,044,822 tokens and took 36 minutes.

Most people who use Claude Code every day have never run one.

— https://nitter.net/phosphenq/status/2083991226827567419#m